Oklahoma Song Writers (okharpman)

Leon Russell is a musical legend. I've pulled some stuff on some other sites that you can study. Who were some of his musical legends that influenced him? What was his first instrument? How old is he? Do you thnk he has any gray hairs.

Monday, June 26, 2006



Mike Settle was born in Tulsa, Oklahoma on March 20, 1941. His first step into the musical waters came when he was in 7th or 8th grade and bought that magical four stringed instrument popularized in Hawaii, an eight dollar and some odd change ukulele. The songwriter/singer told AMG "that was a lot of money to a kid at the time", funds that Settle had earned caddying for his dad and the senior Mr. Settle's golfing buddies.

Michael learned how to play the instrument out of a book, but had been singing in front of relatives and people at school when he was in first and second grade. He honed his craft in the late fifties during three or four years with The Tulsa Boys Singers choir of Tulsa, Oklahoma, an organization which still exists today. It's also where Mike learned to sight read watching the notes as he sang with the choir. With positive feedback from his teachers in the 8th grade he continued his musical efforts, the pivotal moment coming when his high school choral director, Tom Hayden of Muskogee High School in Muskogee, Oklahoma, encouraged the aspiring musician.

His next big influence happened when he met a fellow musical student at Oklahoma City University, Mason Williams, a future comedy writer for The Smothers Brothers and composer/performer of the big 1968 hit "Classical Gas". Williams formed a folk trio in college and this introduced Mike Settle to the coffee house scene. He dropped out of college to tour with John Stewart's group, The Cumberland Three, and though Settle is not on any of their albums, he did one or two singles with the group. When John Stewart joined The Kingston Trio Mike formed a duo with Mason Williams until Williams was drafted into the Navy. Bob Gibson got him a job as an opening act at The Bitter End in New York City and Mike drove to the big apple to perfect his craft there.

As a folk singer he stayed in New York five to six years and played the club on and off, managed for a time by The Bitter End's owner Fred Weintraub. He tried to put a band together in New York, which didn't gel, but was told by his publisher, The Richmond Organization, about an opening in California with The New Christy Minstrels. After meeting people from The Richmond Organization with John Stewart Mike remembered how nice those folks were to a 19 year old kid in New York City. They treated him like they were people from Oklahoma, so when Mason Williams and he wrote a few songs together, and Mike had a couple of his own, they mailed them to The Richmond Organization and got a publishing deal. As that company got "But You Know I Love You" they still have a relationship with the composer to this day.

Brought to the West Coast by George Greif and Sid Garris of Greif/Garris Management, he was made musical director of The New Christy Minstrels. They then asked him to audition Kenny Rogers, an audition held over the telephone. Mike kept asking the future country superstar to sing louder into the phone- to Rogers' embarrassment - he was in a hotel lobby! Settle heard a "great range and a great sound" in Kenny's voice. "I was rubber stamping what George & Sid decided to do" Mike told AMG October 28, 2002 during an interview for this bio.

Mike, Kenny, Thelma Camacho and Terry Williams left The New Christy Minstrels to form The First Edition and they hit on Reprise with the psychedelic classic "Just Dropped In (To See What Condition My Condition Was In". Managed by Ken Kragen and Ken Fritz the group appeared on all sorts of television programs, Ruth Lyons show in Cincinnati, The Mike Douglas Show, The Smothers Brothers (also managed by Kragen & Fritz), The Tonight Show and The Ed Sullivan Show. Upon the release of the single "Ruby, Don't Take Your Love To Town" the band name became Kenny Rogers & The First Edition. Settle left the group to be with his family before the band got their own TV show. But of his experience in The First Edition he says "It was a great time; the economics of making a record were not nearly what they are today".

He remembers being on FM radio in Denver and perhaps a half a dozen other cities when FM was a baby, and the d.j. would play their full album on the air along with interviewing the group. He cut a solo album for Uni Records entitled Mike Settlein 1971 and wrote three songs for the film soundtrack Vanishing Pointthat same year. Settle performed on TV for a folk music special with Alex Hassilev, and Dave Guard in 1974 - the trio doing a few club gigs after that program. He joined Glenn Yarborough and The Limelighters towards the end of the late seventies/early eighties becoming musical director for them as well.

The official BMI site has 127 original Mike Settle tunes posted, including the BMI Award Winning Song "But You Know I Love You" which has been recorded by The First Edition, Kenny Rogers solo, Dolly Parton, with a new version released in 2002 by Alison Krause. His songs have been covered by Glen Campbell, Judy Collins, Bobby Goldsboro, Barbara Lewis, The Springfields featuring Dusty Springfield, Wayne Newton and many many others. The producer/songwriter/journalist lives in Nashville penning new songs as well as writing a plethora of reviews of current recordings for Jeff Craig's radio program. ~ Joe Viglione, All Music Guide

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Notice that I did not put my name on that, but put the writer's name down. That is called "Professionalism." You should never put your name down on something copied from the Internet. You are free to copy stuff on the Internet, as long as you are not going to make money on it. The Copyright Law, in the US, says, that you can use copyrighted material for educational purposes, and that is what we are doing here.

The first time I ever heard Kenny Rogers was "Ruby, Don't Take Your Love to Town" which was with the First Edition. It would do you well if you looked up everyone of the mentioned names in the paragraph, 2 paragraphs above. It is incredible. Once you have written a great song, and other people sing it, you get royalties off of it.

Mike now lives near Nashville, and writes songs for a living. I'm betting he is living a pretty plush live, wouldn't you think.

But the song that blew me away, was "But You Know I Love You," which is about a singer that has to be on the road all the time and misses his wife. Here the song is. The chording is not easy. It is easy until you get to the 'bridge/chorus,' then you have to memorize all the changes.

BUT YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU
Kenny Rogers & The First Edition

When the morning sun
Streaks across my room
And I've waken up
From another dream of you
BR
Yes I'm on the road
BR
Once again it seems
BR
All I've left behind
BR
Is a chain of broken dreams
BR
REFRAIN

But you know I love you
BR
Yes I love you
BR
Oh I love you

The BRIDGE-Hard Chording
How I wish that love
(??-line unclear)
What a life we'd live
Cause I've got so much to give
And it seems so wrong
Deep inside my heart
That the dollar sign
Should be keeping us apart

REFRAIN Difficult Chording.

And if I could only find my way back to the time
When the problems of this life of mine didn't cross our minds
All the answers were found in children's nursery rhymes
I'd come running back to you
I'd come running back to you
And you know we can't
Live on dreams alone
Just to pay the rent
I must leave you all alone
But you know I made my choice
Many years ago
Now this traveling life
Is the only one I know
BR
REFRAIN (four times)
BR
REFRAIN (three times while fading)
BR

Can you imagine someone writing this song, who was, at the time, a newbie to the music industry. See if you can find a page where it has the chords on it. I can play it, but I have to have the music with me.

Got some bad news today. I will not be entering my song in the Woody Guthrie Festival, this year. You have to submit songs between, January 3rd and April. So this year's winners have all been anounced. Now I can get mad and have a temper tantrum. Wrong. I have nearly a half a year to learn Garageband 3, and I can put my song on it and work on it. Then I can burn it to a CD and sending it in sometime in January.

With Mikes song, he now has a house near Nashville and lives comfortably of his royalties. Is that cool or what? I am interested in writing songs as well, as you well know. Now, I will intruduce you to another Oklahoma Genius.

1 Comments:

Blogger Tom said...

I am a big fan of John Stewart formerly of the Kingston Trio. As you may probably know John was in a "farm group" for the KT3 called the Cumberland Three. When Dave Guard left the trio John replaced him and Mike Settle replaced John for a short time in the Cumberland Three.

John stayed in touch with Mike over the years and Mike actually played in concert with John in Phoenix and appears on the double live album "The Phoenix Concerts"

Currently I am involved in a folk music research project and we have included Mike Settle & The Settlers on a compilation CD we have working on. To facilitate this project we have acquired several old vinyl albums of Mikes work. He is an intergal part of the "Great Folk Scare" of the sixties.

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